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Robert Reveals Errors With Traditional Music Theory – 1 minor?

A spur of the moment video with Any Key Music System Creator, Robert Chambers. Here he once again exposes another reason why people get confused in music and can’t play music by ear.

What do you think on his views?

ROBERT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT:

VISITOR: C minor is the relative minor, the 6th scale degree in the major key is the relative minor, the G7 is the dominant of the relative minor, I really don’t see what’s confusing about that or what it has to do with playing by ear?

ANYKEYMUSIC: Thx for your comment. It has everything to do with playing by ear. If you don’t UNDERSTAND the language of music, you can’t play by ear. I’m glad you agree that Cmi is the 6th degree of the major key. My point exactly, why further complicate things by calling it a 1minor? UNNECESSARY. Keep it the 6th & everyone wins.ALSO Memorizing G7 (I’ll be posting the error with G7) as the dominant of the relative minor doesn’t mean one understands WHY it’s used. Hence they can’t hear it by ear.

VISITOR: Hi, I just want to be clear that I don’t disagree with everything you’re saying… I agree that music theory can at times be unnecessarily complicated for beginners… I just disagree with how you are articulating your argument. (and no my masters degrees are not in music theory). I think I understand your point a little better now but the way you originally worded it confused me.

ANYKEYMUSIC: thx for your comment. I’m glad you agree. However my argument is that calling a Cminor a 1 in the key of Eb is UNNECESSARY. It’s clear to see what the 1 in Eb is. The key signature is proof of what I’m saying. Traditional theory on stuff like this has been accepted because there wasn’t a better explanation until now. I know those of you that teach this will be resistant, but you’ll come around soon:) I’m in this to help the masses learn music by ear and the 1 minor is NOT HELPING THEM

VISITOR: In your response below you are saying it’s important for a student to understand WHY G7 is the dominant, And I completely agree! :) It is important for students to HEAR that the G7 chord RESOLVES to the C minor chord. I think we are on the same page now :) I just want to be clear that there is nothing INCORRECT about this phenomenon that is where I was confused with your original argument :)

ANYKEYMUSIC: thx for your comment. There is nothing incorrect about G7 resolving to C minor.The question is, are people being taught to understand why this works or being told that this works? This video was only to address the 1 minor. I’ll do one on the G7 soon. Here’s a taste I’m sure will upset you. The G7 in the CONTEXT of this song had NOTHING to do with it being the 5 of the relative minor. That theory makes music UNNECESSARILY harder and another reason why the majority can’t play by ear.

VISITOR: Are you saying you can’t hear the difference between major and minor? Because this song is clearly in a minor key not Eb major?

ANYKEYMUSIC: thx for your comment. I think if I couldn’t hear the difference between a major and minor chord, then I wouldn’t be qualified to speak on the subject of playing piano by ear. Seeing that I’ve been playing by ear for 30 yrs+, I’ll address your question. Obviously it’s in the key of Eb and starting on the 6th degree. Let me put it in your language. If someone asked you, “what key is a song with 3 flats in ?”, without hearing the song what would you say? ___ Let’s don’t COMPLICATE music.

VISITOR: Ok I’m interested. Why is the G7 in no way related to c minor. I already know that its a complex issue but I don’t feel that its uneccesary

VISITOR: I would say it was in G phrygian :p jk but seriously I would say it was either in Eb major or C minor because without actually hearing it one cannot assume tonality at all. But as soon as I heard it I would be able to stare unequivocally that it was in c minor. Now if the G7 was a g minor chord THEN it would be a much more complicated question and I would have no problem with you calling it Eb in order to simplify

ANYKEYMUSIC: thx for your comment…lol..G Phrygian, that’s a good one… Notice I didn’t ask you about tonality, I asked you a simple question and you had to add something that’s really not NECESSARY. Your first answer to my question is Eb and that is exactly my point and where I stand. That’s the easiest and most obvious answer. All music is like that; (Obvious); that is when we know how to look at it properly. Next week I’ll address my views on the G7..I have to prepare for a few performances

 

ROBERT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT: (Would love to hear from you)

 

 

 

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